postando de novo por motivos de ultima da pag
eu to desiludido com o reforço positivo, hoje ja acredito que determinados tipos de cachorros se dão melhor com outros métodos
postei no reddit
Calm down, I'm not saying I'm going to spank my dog or something. But I just can not understand how they think a method just goes for any type of dog. I'll tell you my case: I've always used positive reinforcement for my dog, from the 45 days of his life to 1 year old, the problem is that he was always very hyperactive and I always refused to scold him, my hand was completely marked of bite to the point of people asking the reason of this, since according to Zak George and others the bite process is natural, that I should only give different textures to him ... well, I did it and did nothing. I always trained my dog every day and the most he learned were tricks, but never had any improvement in behavior. Until the barking crisis began and I was threatened with losing my dog. Understand, my dog is the only thing I have in life, I could not bear a life without it. I tried the command "speak", "look me" and nothing. Until the neighbors were doing signed down to arrest him and know what he solved? One girl told me to throw water at him at all times of continuous barking. Resolved. Today I hardly need to throw water, at most I get close when he's barking and he already knows that he screwed up and goes inside the house, but he knows I do not scold him if he did not do anything wrong. The water method saved my dog and he continues to love me, is excited to see me and does not get depressed, in fact I throw only a minimal amount, just to frighten. Already with positive reinforcement my dog did not like his kibbles anymore because I gave treats many times, in the same way that Zak and other instructors say, as a result he was getting thin by not eating right. I take a bottle of water for walks since my dog wants to bark at other dogs at 4 in the morning or tries to bite me, I just lay a little on his head and the same stopped with the behavior. Another example was that my mother taught him to enter the house when she is cleaning, just by ordering him to come in rigidly, he loves my mother more than anything in the world. I do not know why they think it's all abuse, I'm not saying I'm going to strangle my dog or anything like Cesar Milan, but those aversive methods worked for my dog and I do not think he became a more depressed dog for that reason. I would like to have more balanced authoring options that would give me more options so that I do not have to keep taking treats to all locations and having to survive a bite attack by simply offering a piece of chicken but unfortunately all methods against the positive reinforcement end up being much criticized (including in the reddit) and today almost no other alternative method exists anymore.
incrível que lá é o lugar mais 100% reforço positivo da terra mas ainda tive apoio
perdoem o ingles lama
a patrícia McConnell é uma das maiores autoras sobre reforço positivo e fala isso:
Do I think that we have a responsibility to be kind and gentle to our dogs? Yes.
Do I think that Positive Reinforcement is overwhelmingly the most effective method of training? Yes.
Do I use it 99.99% of the time? Yes.
Have I ever done something to a dog that I knew he would think was aversive to get him to stop doing something? Yes. Would I again? Yes.